Lennym1984 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, eponymoose said: 100% road driving. It's nothing to do with loading the car up laterally during cornering. It's all about bumps and compressions on the road where you run out of travel. If anything , it wouldn't have been as bad / noticeable on a smooth, flat track. I can only report what I found. The Eibachs were clearly lower than the H&R. Here are the Eibachs with a load of pads to lift the front axle: And the H&R: Not easy to compare photos, but the H&R were lower for me. I could have had a bad batch of Eibach springs, but like I said, I couldn;'t get Either Eibach or Bilstein to take any interest, sadly, so I will never know. That looks super low up front. Was the tyre completely tucked or is that just the photo? How many fingers gap was it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craiglm68 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Hi gang, thought I’d pop in my 2 pence worth as an Eibach Pro Kit user. I had also heard about E’s not being quite as low as H&R’s, so went that route....having being parked next to a 987 Cayman S recently with H&R’s, I would confidently say my CS was no lower (full disclosure; I didn’t pull out a measuring tape !). I have Cayman R type splitters on the front as you can see, so definitely have to take more care re drive ways etc, otherwise I found the ride generally improved on good roads, great on track, and definitely more jiggly on rough surfaces. All in all my experience has been positive, being in mind my definition of “improved ride” might be someone else’s definition of “fking awful” 🙂 Edited January 14, 2021 by Craiglm68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenfourate Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Craiglm68 said: Hi gang, thought I’d pop in my 2 pence worth as an Eibach Pro Kit user. I had also heard about E’s not being quite as low as H&R’s, so went that route....having being parked next to a 987 Cayman S recently with H&R’s, I would confidently say my CS was no lower (full disclosure; I didn’t pull out a measuring tape !). I have Cayman R type splitters on the front as you can see, so definitely have to take more care re drive ways etc, otherwise I found the ride generally improved on good roads, great on track, and definitely more jiggly on rough surfaces. All in all my experience has been positive, being in mind my definition of “improved ride” might be someone else’s definition of “fking awful” 🙂 If i achieve that look / stance / drop i will be one very happy camper....... Thanks for your thoughts Craig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygo Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Just a word on how I measure ride heights - I run a tape from the bottom edge of the wheel rim to the wheel arch. Takes away guess work of fingers and wheel/tyre sizes. Where do the spring pads fit BTW? Fitting an R spring and shock setup sounds like a good idea, especially as I'd imagine the standard ones could be sold on. Edited January 15, 2021 by andygo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc5 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Strange how your eibachs at the front look lower than the others on here. Maybe it was down to the shortened bilsteins. The H&r look more acceptable at the front. Would it be better on std shocks or bilstein b4 or b6. Wouldn't like to get it wrong considering the labour involved. If I was to upgrade think I would settle for b4's and h&r. I too think £400+ for r springs is a p*ss take. Anyone have a part no for the 6mm spring pads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenfourate Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 15/01/2021 at 17:59, mc5 said: Anyone have a part no for the 6mm spring pads https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod7032/Shock-Absorber-Compensating-Plate-Porsche-996---997---986---987_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2/ 👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc5 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, sevenfourate said: https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod7032/Shock-Absorber-Compensating-Plate-Porsche-996---997---986---987_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2_2/ 👌 👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newold_m Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Stumbled upon this thread through a web search and decided to join the forum as there seem to a lot of valuable info….! On my new-to-me 987.2 manual with standard suspension I am debating between the Cayman R spring + B8 shocks or the B12 kit with Eibach springs and B8 shocks. Based on the info in this thread the R spring require 6mm pads in front, what about the rear? This thread I found on Rennlist for Cayman R + B6 used P/N 987-333-504-00 which seems to discontinued but latest parts diagram shows a 3mm pad (P/N 981-333-504-01). Also a similar question on what pads to use if I go with the B12 kit? Sounds like 6mm is an option too if front is too low and changing the front struts is definitely much easier than the rear on these cars. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 19 hours ago, newold_m said: Stumbled upon this thread through a web search and decided to join the forum as there seem to a lot of valuable info….! On my new-to-me 987.2 manual with standard suspension I am debating between the Cayman R spring + B8 shocks or the B12 kit with Eibach springs and B8 shocks. Based on the info in this thread the R spring require 6mm pads in front, what about the rear? This thread I found on Rennlist for Cayman R + B6 used P/N 987-333-504-00 which seems to discontinued but latest parts diagram shows a 3mm pad (P/N 981-333-504-01). Also a similar question on what pads to use if I go with the B12 kit? Sounds like 6mm is an option too if front is too low and changing the front struts is definitely much easier than the rear on these cars. Many thanks! I ended up using the 6mm pads front and rear (initially I had put the 3mm ones on the front) with the B8s. The ride height of mine is perfect and I've done many track days since fitting this suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newold_m Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles31 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Hello LennyM1984, I currently have 987.1 with B8 and H&R -35mm spring. I think the car is too low because I scratch the bumpers oftenly and I cannot go fast on countryside roads (I drive faster with my seat leon...) Then, I want to change spring and I'm looking at cayman R spring or HR M030 -10mm spring. Do you have an updated picture of your cayman with the 6mm pad on front damper ? for information, please look at the picture of my cayman with the current config. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newold_m Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Here is how mine looks with Koni Sports + Cayman R springs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 (edited) Here you go. I live in rural Oxfordshire (terrible roads) and don't have any issues with grounding out etc. The brake deflector flap bits sometimes rub on the mental speed bumps on the private road near where my Dad lives but to be honest, even a 4X4 would struggle with those (I once got my race car stuck on one of those) Edited March 8 by Lennym1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamicK Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 @newold_m Your car looks perfect. May I ask what Koni shocks you are using. A question if I may guys. Are the Cayman R rear springs different for a manual and a PDK ? I think I may have bought springs for the "manual gearbox, I have a PDK and my mechanic said that the rears didn't fit and neeeded a shorter shock. What is standard on the R for shocks? Are they Bilstein B6?? Any help appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newold_m Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 @DynamicK thanks! I’m using Koni Sports (yellow) and have been very happy with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamicK Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) @newold_m Thanks for the info. Is there only one Koni Sports shock that fits the Cayman R Springs? I've also got a 987.2 2.9litre, but a PDK, so hopefully they would fit. Edited June 26 by DynamicK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newold_m Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 @DynamicK as far as I know here is Koni only makes one Sport shock for 987 gen cars. In the rear springs are loose with the assembly out of the car but once installed that’s a non-issue due to suspension preload but I did put a small zip tie to prevent spring from rotating just in case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamicK Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 @newold_m Many thanks for that info. How much play was there in the rear shocks? My mechanic had the same issue on the rears, so I had to abort the installation, as he had not done this job before and didn't know . Expensive job for nothing. If you still have the invoice for the springs, would you mind sharing the part numbers, so I can cross check my purchase, as I think there is a different rear spring for the PDK and I might have bought the springs for the manual car. Did you use 6mm spring pads on the rear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newold_m Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 As I recall free play was a few cm’s but it’s really not a big deal as that only happens when the suspension is fully loaded on a lift. Once there is weight on the car gap is gone.. Same will happen if you’re using Bilstein B4/B6 shocks. Let me dig up to see if I had paperwork with part numbers from the order with Carnewal but I am using the manual springs and I think 6mm pads. It’s been awhile so details are a bit fuzzy but I can measure next time I lift the car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennym1984 Posted June 28 Author Share Posted June 28 3 hours ago, newold_m said: Once there is weight on the car gap is gone.. Same will happen if you’re using Bilstein B4/B6 shocks. I fitted Cayman R springs with B8 shocks and didn't have the issue you described. I used the original spring pads (which I think are 6mm) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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